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Re: Michigan 2020
Take the following with a grain of salt, as I am not currently involved with NSO or any state organization in any direct way beyond just volunteering for events.
My bet is that there were extensive discussions behind the scenes that were not communicated in the email. I would guess that similar conversations have been conducted to varying degrees in both NJ and NC. As of now, it would appear that the latter two are more set in their ways, given that they have held their current policies for many years. NC in particular is unlikely to change, as NCSO predates NSO by several years.
Now, personal opinion time: I am glad NSO stepped in and showed some influence here. Michigan definitely acted with good intentions, but it is my bet that they didn't fully think through all of the consequences of allowing extra team members when it comes to invitationals and nationals. I am generally okay with states having some freedom to run their tournaments how they are comfortable, but when it comes to core mechanisms like team size and number of events, states really should attempt to match NSO as best as possible, and I'm glad to see NSO showed some power in maintaining this. Sets a good precedent for the future.
This is not an event-related post, but just to be safe: Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.
My bet is that there were extensive discussions behind the scenes that were not communicated in the email. I would guess that similar conversations have been conducted to varying degrees in both NJ and NC. As of now, it would appear that the latter two are more set in their ways, given that they have held their current policies for many years. NC in particular is unlikely to change, as NCSO predates NSO by several years.
Now, personal opinion time: I am glad NSO stepped in and showed some influence here. Michigan definitely acted with good intentions, but it is my bet that they didn't fully think through all of the consequences of allowing extra team members when it comes to invitationals and nationals. I am generally okay with states having some freedom to run their tournaments how they are comfortable, but when it comes to core mechanisms like team size and number of events, states really should attempt to match NSO as best as possible, and I'm glad to see NSO showed some power in maintaining this. Sets a good precedent for the future.
This is not an event-related post, but just to be safe: Opinions expressed on this site are not official; the only place for official rules changes and FAQs is soinc.org.
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Re: Michigan 2020
The National Event Supervisor for Detector Building will hold a workshop at Haslett High School on Saturday, Nov. 23 from 10 am - 2:30pm.
In this workshop, he shows you how to build a temperature probe, how to program the TI Nspire, how to calibrate the probe, how to do the circuitry to set up the LEDs, and then a little bit more programming to put it all together. Everyone makes and keeps their own probe and a mini-breadboard with the LEDs on it. (This probe will work with an Arduino, etc. You don't have to have an Nspire.)
This workshop is open to students, coaches, event coaches and anyone interested.
No previous experience with the Nspire is necessary. We provide all the materials. You probably want to bring something to take notes.
There is a $5 fee for everyone except teachers.
Box lunches are available for pre-order for $5.
To register, visit the webpage https://haslettsciolyinvitational.weebl ... kshop.html
In this workshop, he shows you how to build a temperature probe, how to program the TI Nspire, how to calibrate the probe, how to do the circuitry to set up the LEDs, and then a little bit more programming to put it all together. Everyone makes and keeps their own probe and a mini-breadboard with the LEDs on it. (This probe will work with an Arduino, etc. You don't have to have an Nspire.)
This workshop is open to students, coaches, event coaches and anyone interested.
No previous experience with the Nspire is necessary. We provide all the materials. You probably want to bring something to take notes.
There is a $5 fee for everyone except teachers.
Box lunches are available for pre-order for $5.
To register, visit the webpage https://haslettsciolyinvitational.weebl ... kshop.html
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Re: Michigan 2020
So far this season it seems like Troy Michigan is really in deep trouble. I’ve been watching their events so far in the early season and it seems as if they are struggling in build and a few study events. I also do believe Pioneer won’t make nats this year. I do think it was just a one year wonder they had.
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Re: Michigan 2020
1-2 Northville - Emphasis on 1st
1-4 Troy - Ofc
1-4 GrandHaven - Home Pick
4-5 Saline - They are really good, I love their team, but I don't think they can break top 4 yet
6-7 WMAA - The logical progression is 20 to 10 to 6, everyone knows that:)
6-7 Forest Central - They have been a consistent good school, but Saline and above are far better
8 IA Central - WMAA and Forest will just get better
9 DCD - Will Continue to Fall
10 Any team that has motivation
Disclaimer: Lmaoo, if you haven't figured it out, this is a meme prediction before any invys had happened and I rearranged the top 10. Don't take it personally. I don't predict teams as a general thing:)
I think top 10 will be much closer scores near the bottom this year(almost 200 pts between 5th-10th place last year!), ig we'll see
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Re: Michigan 2020
No Pioneer in the top 3, let alone the top 10? And, I also heard from Saline kids that Saline is pretty weak this year after they lost some Seniors last year, but you never know in Michigan.AlfWeg wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 4:22 pm1-2 Northville - Emphasis on 1st
1-4 Troy - Ofc
1-4 GrandHaven - Home Pick
4-5 Saline - They are really good, I love their team, but I don't think they can break top 4 yet
6-7 WMAA - The logical progression is 20 to 10 to 6, everyone knows that:)
6-7 Forest Central - They have been a consistent good school, but Saline and above are far better
8 IA Central - WMAA and Forest will just get better
9 DCD - Will Continue to Fall
10 Any team that has motivation
I think top 10 will be much closer scores near the bottom this year(almost 200 pts between 5th-10th place last year!), ig we'll see
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Re: Michigan 2020
Pioneer. ily SriG Hmm, I didn't know about Saline's seniors leaving...but they have a good organization so idk if that will effect them that muchOblivion wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 5:19 pmNo Pioneer in the top 3, let alone the top 10? And, I also heard from Saline kids that Saline is pretty weak this year after they lost some Seniors last year, but you never know in Michigan.AlfWeg wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 4:22 pm1-2 Northville - Emphasis on 1st
1-4 Troy - Ofc
1-4 GrandHaven - Home Pick
4-5 Saline - They are really good, I love their team, but I don't think they can break top 4 yet
6-7 WMAA - The logical progression is 20 to 10 to 6, everyone knows that:)
6-7 Forest Central - They have been a consistent good school, but Saline and above are far better
8 IA Central - WMAA and Forest will just get better
9 DCD - Will Continue to Fall
10 Any team that has motivation
I think top 10 will be much closer scores near the bottom this year(almost 200 pts between 5th-10th place last year!), ig we'll see
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Re: Michigan 2020
Pioneer really out hereAlfWeg wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 5:38 pmPioneer. Wow, them fools ily SriG Hmm, I didn't know about Saline's seniors leaving...but they have a good organization so idk if that will effect them that muchOblivion wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 5:19 pmNo Pioneer in the top 3, let alone the top 10? And, I also heard from Saline kids that Saline is pretty weak this year after they lost some Seniors last year, but you never know in Michigan.AlfWeg wrote: ↑November 6th, 2019, 4:22 pm
1-2 Northville - Emphasis on 1st
1-4 Troy - Ofc
1-4 GrandHaven - Home Pick
4-5 Saline - They are really good, I love their team, but I don't think they can break top 4 yet
6-7 WMAA - The logical progression is 20 to 10 to 6, everyone knows that:)
6-7 Forest Central - They have been a consistent good school, but Saline and above are far better
8 IA Central - WMAA and Forest will just get better
9 DCD - Will Continue to Fall
10 Any team that has motivation
I think top 10 will be much closer scores near the bottom this year(almost 200 pts between 5th-10th place last year!), ig we'll see
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Re: Michigan 2020
Must have some really strong binoculars.ilovebiologyPA wrote: ↑November 3rd, 2019, 8:59 pm So far this season it seems like Troy Michigan is really in deep trouble. I’ve been watching their events
ikrmadhavaniyengar wrote: ↑November 9th, 2019, 7:57 pmPioneer really out here
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