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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Alex-RCHS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:43 am

windu34 wrote:
4Head wrote:
Matholy wrote:With NoCal states coming up, who do you think would win? Kreamer or Churchill?

Edit: Has anyone realized how teams with earlier states comps place considerably worse than teams which have states late:
https://scioly.org/wiki/index.php/Wrigh ... rsity_2017
Ex: Wright State Uni 2017:
Montana (November): 48th
West Virginia, SOuth Carolina, New Mexico (February): 55, 43, 44

THen APril 29th (last state comps):
Illinois:1,8
Michigan:4,13
Pennsylvania:9,20

It also just so happens that those states have much stronger teams.

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Agreed. You’d have to see which states have moved their state tournaments to different times of year, and study the effect of those changes.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby JVallurup47 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:25 am

dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:You're from Idaho, possibly one of the worst scioly states.

Okay, trash talking states who try, possibly even more then you, is not okay. Not only is it immoral, but it also may not be true. Texas used to place in the bottom half until Beckendorff came along, even winning nationals in 2014. Anything could happen, and you can't criticize it.


Ok. I'm sorry to anyone I offended.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby JVallurup47 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:27 am

MissAmargasaurus wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Nerd_Bunny wrote:Be nice to Idaho, y'all...we're trying our best to be competitive in a not competitive state. According to our performances this year, (our actual knowledge and not just medals) our team actually has a chance at ranking in a few events. We got 16th in Disease Detectives last year.


Are you talking about Nats?


This is about nats, yes. I believe that was the B team so I'm less familiar with their scores (and this IS the B rankings thread, haha), but my team (C division) placed 12th in experimental design, and 24th in robot arm as well for our best events our first year at nationals. Idaho may not be competitive, there were only 31 B teams and 13 C teams at state, but we sure as hell try to compete at our very best and improve our rank at nationals if possible! We really hope in the future we'll be able to encourage the other teams to try just as hard as we do.

So uh yeah, it'd be kind not to trash talk other teams you don't know the history of based on state alone. *shrug*



I see... I wasn't aware you guys actually had that many teams. I thought Idaho was one of those states where like 5 teams compete at state.



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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby wzhang5460 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 am

NY Predictions

Gelinas: 9th (We almost got the Fortnite dub before States, 2nd place solos AFK during the team meeting)
Goff: 20th (Long, long time since they've been to Nats)
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby kate! » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:38 am

wzhang5460 wrote:NY Predictions

Gelinas: 9th (We almost got the Fortnite dub before States, 2nd place solos AFK during the team meeting)
Goff: 20th (Long, long time since they've been to Nats)

Tbh I don't think you guys will be top 10, you haven't been doing that well this year, but probably very close, maybe 11 or 12. Goff, however, I don't think will make top 20. They got really lucky during states, maybe they'll get in the 30s or something.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Unome » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:05 am

kate! wrote:
wzhang5460 wrote:NY Predictions

Gelinas: 9th (We almost got the Fortnite dub before States, 2nd place solos AFK during the team meeting)
Goff: 20th (Long, long time since they've been to Nats)

Tbh I don't think you guys will be top 10, you haven't been doing that well this year, but probably very close, maybe 11 or 12. Goff, however, I don't think will make top 20. They got really lucky during states, maybe they'll get in the 30s or something.

I agree on Gelinas, but I'd say Goff will be around 20-25.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Goff18 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:11 am

Last time we (Goff) made Nationals in 1999, we got 20th. We'll probably end up about there again.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Matholy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:21 am

1999 Nats are considerably harder than 2018.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby dxu46 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:26 am

Matholy wrote:1999 Nats are considerably harder than 2018.

Harder? Weren't there less teams?
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby (JC) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:31 pm

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Galahad » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:05 am

Alex-RCHS wrote:
windu34 wrote:
4Head wrote:It also just so happens that those states have much stronger teams.

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Agreed. You’d have to see which states have moved their state tournaments to different times of year, and study the effect of those changes.



I mean this makes sense because the kids get to work harder and feel stress/under pressure as they prepare. Plus not all states hold all events, and when you start an event like two months before nats then it's hard to get better.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby nicksalanitri » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:18 am

kate! wrote:
wzhang5460 wrote:NY Predictions

Gelinas: 9th (We almost got the Fortnite dub before States, 2nd place solos AFK during the team meeting)
Goff: 20th (Long, long time since they've been to Nats)

Tbh I don't think you guys will be top 10, you haven't been doing that well this year, but probably very close, maybe 11 or 12. Goff, however, I don't think will make top 20. They got really lucky during states, maybe they'll get in the 30s or something.




I agree with Gelinas, and I think Goff might be around 17th in my predictions. They didn't have many bombs at states and that's what hurts your team score the most at nationals. And Goff's 2nd place states is not due to luck, but due to a solid team that works well together and spreads events outs evenly. Also, I think its an understatement to say Gelinas hasn't done that well because they did win 3 tournaments that consisted of nationally competitive teams and won NYS. But none the less we will just have to wait and see and good luck to all teams competing in Colorado!
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby dxu46 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:05 am

My Predictions:

1. Daniel Wright
2. Solon
3. Beckendorff
4. Meads Mill
5. Longfellow
6. Piedmont
7. Springhouse
8. Community
9. Gelinas
10. Baker (?)
11. Hamilton
12. Tower Heights/OH #2
13. Kennedy
14. Dodgen
15. Ladue/MO
16. Jeffery Trail
17. Shady Side
18. Fulton Science
19. Highlands
20. Chippewa

IDK, it's hard because so many teams didn't qualify (Churchill, Bearden, Eagle Hill, California Trail, etc.)

Also it's my first prediction so tell me where i'm wrong pls
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Cow481 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 am

dxu46 wrote:My Predictions:

1. Daniel Wright
2. Solon
3. Beckendorff
4. Meads Mill
5. Longfellow
6. Piedmont
7. Springhouse
8. Community
9. Gelinas
10. Baker (?)
11. Hamilton
12. Tower Heights/OH #2
13. Kennedy
14. Dodgen
15. Ladue/MO
16. Jeffery Trail
17. Shady Side
18. Fulton Science
19. Highlands
20. Chippewa

IDK, it's hard because so many teams didn't qualify (Churchill, Bearden, Eagle Hill, California Trail, etc.)

Also it's my first prediction so tell me where i'm wrong pls

I think shadyside should be at least top 15.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby shrewdPanther46 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:13 am

dxu46 wrote:My Predictions:

1. Daniel Wright
2. Solon
3. Beckendorff
4. Meads Mill
5. Longfellow
6. Piedmont
7. Springhouse
8. Community
9. Gelinas
10. Baker (?)
11. Hamilton
12. Tower Heights/OH #2
13. Kennedy
14. Dodgen
15. Ladue/MO
16. Jeffery Trail
17. Shady Side
18. Fulton Science
19. Highlands
20. Chippewa

IDK, it's hard because so many teams didn't qualify (Churchill, Bearden, Eagle Hill, California Trail, etc.)

Also it's my first prediction so tell me where i'm wrong pls


theres a bunch of stuff that dont make sense, but biggest one i see is kennedy. kennedy going to be top 4 or 5 for sure
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