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Forensics C

Postby pikachu4919 » June 30th, 2018, 11:21 am

Forensics C: Given a scenario and some possible suspects, participants will perform a series of tests which along with other evidence or test results will be used to solve a crime.

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Postby c21k » September 7th, 2018, 1:33 pm

Oh no...one sheet? Time to condense the 5 pages.
Did anyone see any other 'bigger' changes for this year?

Also, is there anyone willing to give some advice as to how to tell cotton and linen apart? I keep mixing them up
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Re: Forensics C

Postby Person » September 7th, 2018, 5:06 pm

c21k wrote:Oh no...one sheet? Time to condense the 5 pages.
[...]

I may be interpreting the rules incorrectly, but wouldn't each team be allowed up to 2 sheets of paper?
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Re: Forensics C

Postby Unome » September 7th, 2018, 5:21 pm

Person wrote:
c21k wrote:Oh no...one sheet? Time to condense the 5 pages.
[...]

I may be interpreting the rules incorrectly, but wouldn't each team be allowed up to 2 sheets of paper?

That looks right to me.

(this still leaves teams with more than they had when I first started competing).
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Re: Forensics C

Postby pikachu4919 » September 7th, 2018, 8:42 pm

Unome wrote:
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c21k wrote:Oh no...one sheet? Time to condense the 5 pages.
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I may be interpreting the rules incorrectly, but wouldn't each team be allowed up to 2 sheets of paper?

That looks right to me.

(this still leaves teams with more than they had when I first started competing).


I mean ig technically you're going down from 10 sheets to 2 :P

but anyways...

c21k wrote:Also, is there anyone willing to give some advice as to how to tell cotton and linen apart? I keep mixing them up


The key is in the burn test: while both will leave charred ends, cotton burns quite quickly, and when it stops burning, it leaves a really fine grey-ish ash where the fiber used to be. Linen burns for much longer, almost at a constant rate like a fuse on a bomb (like the kind you see on TV) while also giving off little sparks. While descriptions may help, I suggest you actually do the burn test for yourself to observe it so that you will know exactly what it looks like.
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Postby c21k » September 15th, 2018, 10:11 am

Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?
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Postby nicholasmaurer » September 15th, 2018, 2:23 pm

c21k wrote:Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?


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Postby pikachu4919 » September 15th, 2018, 3:14 pm

nicholasmaurer wrote:
c21k wrote:Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?


Yes.


What’s weird tho is that in the next line of rule 2.b. it says “This sheet” instead of something like “these sheets.” I guess if you interpret the rule before as each team member bringing a sheet, then it should still be two sheets, not one.

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Re: Forensics C

Postby Person » September 15th, 2018, 6:06 pm

pikachu4919 wrote:
nicholasmaurer wrote:
c21k wrote:Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?


Yes.


What’s weird tho is that in the next line of rule 2.b. it says “This sheet” instead of something like “these sheets.” I guess if you interpret the rule before as each team member bringing a sheet, then it should still be two sheets, not one.

Disclaimer: this is my own opinion and may not reflect what SO, inc. actually intended with their wording. If this is something you want to clear up with them, submit an FAQ or Rule Clarification on soinc.org.

I assume they worded it that way because the previous sentence only referred to a single participant's sheet, and there could technically be just one team member competing.
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Postby RainbowMammoths » September 26th, 2018, 2:38 pm

c21k wrote:Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?

Where did you find the rules? I can't find a link on the SciO wiki.

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Postby pikachu4919 » September 26th, 2018, 3:03 pm

RainbowMammoths wrote:
c21k wrote:Ok wait so the rules say " Each participant may bring an 8.5” x 11” sheet of paper that may contain information on both sides"
But each team has two participants. Does this mean we, in total, may have two 8.5” x 11” sheets of paper?

Where did you find the rules? I can't find a link on the SciO wiki.


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Postby megrimlockawesom » October 15th, 2018, 4:26 pm

how does one condense all this info into one sheet?
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Postby Unome » October 15th, 2018, 7:45 pm

megrimlockawesom wrote:how does one condense all this info into one sheet?

Ask any of your friends that do A&P :P
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Postby pikachu4919 » October 16th, 2018, 12:46 pm

Unome wrote:
megrimlockawesom wrote:how does one condense all this info into one sheet?

Ask any of your friends that do A&P :P


Ye, small fonts, really narrow margins, but one thing about 4n6 is that although there are so many different topics, you don't necessarily need to put them all on your cheat sheet (i.e. tracks, striations) depending on how much you know about them - for example, if you do lots of biology and/or also happen to do designer genes, you may not necessarily need to include any cheat sheet info on DNA or blood typing.

Making your cheatsheet is really a careful process of making the most out of the space you have in the area. If there's something you're confident you know by heart, then there's no need to put it on your sheet, and that frees up that space for you to put something else that you're maybe not as confident with. But that's up to you and what you know.
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Re: Forensics C

Postby Anomaly » October 16th, 2018, 1:38 pm

pikachu4919 wrote:
Unome wrote:
megrimlockawesom wrote:how does one condense all this info into one sheet?

Ask any of your friends that do A&P :P


Ye, small fonts, really wide margins, but one thing about 4n6 is that although there are so many different topics, you don't necessarily need to put them all on your cheat sheet (i.e. tracks, striations) depending on how much you know about them - for example, if you do lots of biology and/or also happen to do designer genes, you may not necessarily need to include any cheat sheet info on DNA or blood typing.

Making your cheatsheet is really a careful process of making the most out of the space you have in the area. If there's something you're confident you know by heart, then there's no need to put it on your sheet, and that frees up that space for you to put something else that you're maybe not as confident with. But that's up to you and what you know.

Wait why wide margins?
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