Herpetology B/C

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby dvegadvol » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:06 pm

An addition to the rules for "laboratory stations" and removing anything from the binder at them:

"If the event features a rotation through a series of laboratory stations in which the participants interact with samples, specimens, or
displays no material may be removed from the binder while at, or in-between, laboratory stations."

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:39 pm

I don't really understand the convenience of removing material in the first place. It's easy enough to simultaneously look at two pages in the binder, and it seems kind of time-wastey to take pages out. Maybe I just don't have a big enough binder though?

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:58 am

Unome wrote:
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emxl wrote:
I've always found it harder to find information in bigger binders, so what's your opinion on this? How was the five inch binder organized?

I always have the list/some form of the list in the front, then general info and charts, then the specimen pages themselves (all in sheet protectors so I could take them out of the binder easily at competition)

This seems to be the common pattern, but how do you have time to take out the sheets during competition?!

Uhhh I think I only did it once or twice throughout the season. Rocks is more of where I took stuff out (my specific gravity chart) if I needed it to answer questions from a previous station
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:10 am

UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:I don't really understand the convenience of removing material in the first place. It's easy enough to simultaneously look at two pages in the binder, and it seems kind of time-wastey to take pages out. Maybe I just don't have a big enough binder though?

If, for example, I was working on answering the previous station while my partner was working on the current one, then I could just remove whatever page I needed, and let her use the binder if necessary. In my previous reply I mentioned Rocks, but the reason for removing pages there is a little bit more to do with a trick I used while competing.
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Herp: 1/4/4
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Rocks: 1/1/1
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby Froggie » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:41 am

So just a question: we can have field guides in our binders now?
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby nicholasmaurer » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:02 pm

Froggie wrote:So just a question: we can have field guides in our binders now?


2.a. allows "information in any form and from any source" which therefore should include field guides. Just remember everything in the binder must be "attached using the available rings." If you have a field guide through which you have punched holes, that would appear to be legal this year - although I'm not sure it would be an efficient use of space, especially since the majority of any field guide will be on species that are NOT on the list.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby longshot0921 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:20 pm

Does anyone know of any good field guides for herpetology?

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby Froggie » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:48 pm

longshot0921 wrote:Does anyone know of any good field guides for herpetology?

I’d say the Peterson Field Guides are pretty good, especially the plates.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby longshot0921 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:41 pm

In the C division rules, it says that I need to know the "anatomy and
physiology, reproduction, habitat characteristics, ecology, diet, behavior, conservation, taxonomy,
sounds, and biogeography"

What does it mean by conservation and biogeography?

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:56 pm

longshot0921 wrote:In the C division rules, it says that I need to know the "anatomy and
physiology, reproduction, habitat characteristics, ecology, diet, behavior, conservation, taxonomy,
sounds, and biogeography"

What does it mean by conservation and biogeography?

Conservation can include things like conservation status (I usually refer to the IUCN Red List or CITES), conservation efforts, and threats to existing populations.
Biogeography has to do with the distribution of a taxon (where populations are located), possibly across time if the populations have changed significantly.

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:05 pm

platypusomelette wrote:So the only changes are:
Removed typhlopidae / brahminy blind snake
Added anaxyrus under bufonidae
Added "ornate chorus frog & spring peeper" to pseudacris common names
Added lithobates under ranidae
Added gastrophyrne under microhylidae?

Confirming. They also removed Spea, although it still lists spadefoot toads for the common names (Scaphiopus only includes the southern spadefoots).

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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby jlordhe » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:38 am

Is herpetology B the same as herpetology c?
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby Unome » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:08 pm

jlordhe wrote:Is herpetology B the same as herpetology c?

Typically ID events have no differences. I haven't checked this year's rules in particular though.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:50 pm

jlordhe wrote:Is herpetology B the same as herpetology c?

Yes, they are the same.

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Error in the national herpetology list.

Postby longshot0921 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:03 pm

In the list below the rules it lists the genus Charina – rubber boa and rosy boa
Rosy boa is not under the genus of Charina.


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