Mousetrap Vehicle C

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby bwy » April 7th, 2010, 9:40 am

It came down to the decision to save "the good stuff" [our new mouse traps for only state]. This sounds like overconfidence but I knew that the performance of our vehicle will out score any vehicle in my region.
Save the good stuff? Mousetraps only cost about 2 dollars right? And my region is really competitive. Troy's car, which I saw at regionals, probably had a time of about 12 seconds and a distance score of 3.7 cm. It's pretty hard to beat a score of -4.3

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby packer-backer91 » April 7th, 2010, 12:00 pm

It came down to the decision to save "the good stuff" [our new mouse traps for only state]. This sounds like overconfidence but I knew that the performance of our vehicle will out score any vehicle in my region.
Save the good stuff? Mousetraps only cost about 2 dollars right? And my region is really competitive. Troy's car, which I saw at regionals, probably had a time of about 12 seconds and a distance score of 3.7 cm. It's pretty hard to beat a score of -4.3

I didn't need to replace them in order to have a good vehicle for regional’s but for my state I needed to get some better stuff I remain completive.
Winneratlife: You will not get to do that state I am 100% sure that you will not be able to do have any runs the day of down there. I have gone to State the last 5 years [this year will be 6] and never has that been allowed!
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby Flavorflav » April 7th, 2010, 12:09 pm

Did anyone put in a clarification on this? The rules say that holes may be drilled in the base; they do not say that holes may only be drilled to attach the mousetrap. I know it has no official standing, but the National Event Supervisor told us at a coaches' clinic that there was no limit to the size or number of the holes drilled in the mousetrap base.
Really? When and where was this clinic at? How did you know it was the national event supervisor, I tried looking this information up on the soinc website and couldn't find a listing of National Event Supervisors.

But if the National Event Supervisor tells you that it's okay, then it must be okay right (at the very least at the National level)? Since they'd be the ones scoring the event at Nationals.

*edit meant soinc website not scioly.
Well, he said he was the National event Supervisor, and the State Director said he was the National Event Supervisor, and I believe he had a little name tag saying National Event Supervisor, but I suppose it is theoretically possible that they were all making it up. The clinic was in Poughkeepsie, NY, on October 20somethingth.

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby winneratlife » April 7th, 2010, 2:04 pm

It came down to the decision to save "the good stuff" [our new mouse traps for only state]. This sounds like overconfidence but I knew that the performance of our vehicle will out score any vehicle in my region.
Save the good stuff? Mousetraps only cost about 2 dollars right? And my region is really competitive. Troy's car, which I saw at regionals, probably had a time of about 12 seconds and a distance score of 3.7 cm. It's pretty hard to beat a score of -4.3

I didn't need to replace them in order to have a good vehicle for regional’s but for my state I needed to get some better stuff I remain completive.
Winneratlife: You will not get to do that state I am 100% sure that you will not be able to do have any runs the day of down there. I have gone to State the last 5 years [this year will be 6] and never has that been allowed!
:x

That ruined my day...
So I now have to waste my first run to calibrate?...

RAWR

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby Gooblah » April 7th, 2010, 2:56 pm

Alright, so I managed to finish building the mousetrap vehicle, but with one significant problem: it doesn't go backward. :lol: Which is odd. The winding is correct (clockwise -> once around pin -> counter clockwise), but when I release the lever arm it simply stops halfway. When I push the lever arm forward to simulate how the vehicle would move, it goes forward a bit more then starts moving backward, indicating the problem is perhaps in the mousetrap itself? Has anyone run into a similar issue?
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby packer-backer91 » April 7th, 2010, 3:56 pm


:x

That ruined my day...
So I now have to waste my first run to calibrate?...

RAWR

Not cool
Yes, this is a rule that can be questionable yet at the same time I agree why the rule is in place [if you find that the vehicle is not handling like it does at practice you obviously would change something on your vehicle to correct it] now that opportunity needs to be open to all that would like to have a practice run. That can't happen at State because there is 46ish teams there and you HAVE to provide equal treatment to all teams thus if all teams cant get a practice run the NO one can gets one. That rule is in place to prevent giving teams an unfair advantage. Their is no good way to allow equal treatment if you allowed for open runs before the event started on the tracked on which you will be judged. Case and point I would show up 1.5hr before the impounding starts and I might end up staying there until I feel the vehicle is adjusted perfectly to the floor.


But, this is perfectly allowed: because you can’t run on the track you can have some test runs in areas that are not taped off. What happens is there is always a huge line to impound so to pass time some teams made a few test runs to see how the vehicle was doing. Not perfect but that may make you a little happier.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby winneratlife » April 7th, 2010, 3:58 pm


:x

That ruined my day...
So I now have to waste my first run to calibrate?...

RAWR

Not cool
Yes, this is a rule that can be questionable yet at the same time I agree why the rule is in place [if you find that the vehicle is not handling like it does at practice you obviously would change something on your vehicle to correct it] now that opportunity needs to be open to all that would like to have a practice run. That can't happen at State because there is 46ish teams there and you HAVE to provide equal treatment to all teams thus if all teams cant get a practice run the NO one can gets one. That rule is in place to prevent giving teams an unfair advantage. Their is no good way to allow equal treatment if you allowed for open runs before the event started on the tracked on which you will be judged. Case and point I would show up 1.5hr before the impounding starts and I might end up staying there until I feel the vehicle is adjusted perfectly to the floor.


But, this is perfectly allowed: because you can’t run on the track you can have some test runs in areas that are not taped off. What happens is there is always a huge line to impound so to pass time some teams made a few test runs to see how the vehicle was doing. Not perfect but that may make you a little happier.
Haha that's what I did. I meant that you test it in random places, not on the actual track...

At regionals, they hadn't even laid down the track yet.

So all 46 teams can test... There's lots of space.

So I guess I'm good :D

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby packer-backer91 » April 7th, 2010, 5:01 pm

How there the times at your regional? I got 22second with my old vehicle how did that compare to what you saw at your regional? [Vehicle V3 = not done yet]
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby winneratlife » April 7th, 2010, 5:19 pm

How there the times at your regional? I got 22second with my old vehicle how did that compare to what you saw at your regional? [Vehicle V3 = not done yet]

Sorry... I didn't see anything...

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle C

Postby packer-backer91 » April 7th, 2010, 5:45 pm

Alright, so I managed to finish building the mousetrap vehicle, but with one significant problem: it doesn't go backward. :lol: Which is odd. The winding is correct (clockwise -> once around pin -> counter clockwise), but when I release the lever arm it simply stops halfway. When I push the lever arm forward to simulate how the vehicle would move, it goes forward a bit more then starts moving backward, indicating the problem is perhaps in the mousetrap itself? Has anyone run into a similar issue?

Does the string have tension on it for the entire run? [if there is nothing pulling on the axel that can be the cause of why your vehicle will not reverse]. I don’t exactly use your design but the principal that you use works on my vehicle well. Is the string being hocked on something? Or is our mouse trap being using all of it’s energy and your vehicle only goes halfway back? Not exactly sure what your problem may be. I’m just gave you a list of problems that I have seen happen.
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